Rosinkas share in year. Rosinkas: "We are the only one who carries the money of the state"
Moscow, 11 Apr - Prime. One of the largest players of the market of collection services - the Association of Rosinkas - despite the crisis, increases the volume of transportation and spectrum of services provided. In addition to the exclusive customer, in the face of the Bank of Russia, it serves the largest banks and companies, carrying money and values \u200b\u200beven in hard-to-reach areas. The union is actively introducing new projects, among which the introduction of caides with paint, which, during the opening, leave the immemorous stains on the money and the hands of the criminal. Rosinkas plans to expand the range of services up to the protection of objects where values \u200b\u200bare stored. The President, Chairman of the Board of the Association of Rosinkas Oleg Krylov, was told about the development, incorporation and "black" collectors in an interview with Prime.
Oleg Vyacheslavovich, many are now complaining about the fact that business is experiencing difficult times, customers are small. And how does the crisis affect Rosinkas?
You know, the decline is definitely not, rather, on the contrary. At the end of 2016, we transported values \u200b\u200bin the amount of 22.7 trillion rubles, of which 7.1 trillion rubles fall on the Bank of Russia. The amount of valuables transported by territorial departments in 2016 increased compared with the level of last year by 2.4 trillion rubles or 12%, including on the bank of Russia - by 51.7%. In general, it accounts for a third value transported by us.
- What is the reason for such a high proportion of the Bank of Russia? Do you exercise exclusive services for him?
Of course. Our main and most important task is to transport reserve funds Bank of Russia. This is our, if you can say, "exclusive", which is not trusted by commercial carriers. Money comes with the Gosnak factories, and we are delivering them throughout the country. Until recently, the Bank of Russia had its own unit for the transport of reserve funds, but now it is abolished, and we are the only ones who carry state money. In addition, we were placed on us a serious task of protecting the objects of the Bank of Russia - to date, up to 40% of objects are located.
Probably, you had to do a lot so that Rosinkas became one of the most reliable money in Russia by the carrier of money and values?
I came here two on a few years ago. Quite quickly was the understanding that in the previous conditions "Rosinkas" cannot develop. The "fat" years ended, economic difficulties dictate the need to earn themselves, and not to calculate only on the "state order".
I had to rebuild a huge structure in the shortest possible time - we are one of the largest cash in cash in the world, we have more than 21 thousand people and more than five thousand cars! The developed development strategy showed that we did not sufficiently use our resources. Many controls lived exclusively through the transportation of reserve funds. We unexpectedly understood that not everyone knows how to earn in hard conditions.
What technical innovations have you used when moving to a new structure to save and improve the efficiency of your activity?
In January of this year, we accepted the development strategy of IT technologies. At one time, we have greatly lagging behind this direction. Now we try to use and develop schemes - logistic, accounting, financial - to revise existing systems and withdraw them to a qualitatively new level. There are also their developments to remotely look at what is happening in areas in hard-to-reach places, track the routes of vehicles. New technologies help us reduce costs.
We consider several promising projects. For example, we study the issue of using caisis with paint, which, with illegal autopsy, leaves the mishable spots on the money and hands. Such a system is operating in several countries, but it must be solved in the complex - integrated with electronic devices. Another argument "For" their use is to reduce the need to apply combat weapons when attacking. After all, it is always a risk to harm in any unhappy people. But the question arises - this system will be connected, and whether it will take off.
- In addition to the order for the transport of reserve funds, you attract and commercial customers. Are there many of them who they are?
We have several tens of thousands of commercial customers, of which more than three hundred banks. We work almost with all large banksEven if they have their own collection. An example is Sberbank, where the collector service is developed very well. Despite this, in a number of regions, they impose a duty to the service of ATMs on us. For each client, we can offer a range of services - from collection to the service of ATMs. Since we are obliged to protect the banks of the Bank of Russia, ready to offer and services for the protection of places where values \u200b\u200bare stored, and other clients. A few months ago, the union was created by his own non-bank credit organisation. The use of modern settlement technologies in working with clients will allow the association to become even more competitive in the market work with cash.
All property transported is necessarily insured in the largest insurance companies.
- Can they ordinary people Take advantage of your services?
Individuals can take advantage of our services for the transport of money and values, but only through our customers banks. The fact is that the state is fighting for the carriage of cash, and we cannot be confident in the legality of the origin of funds from the client "from the street". By agreement with the Bank, transportation is possible, for this we have special comfortable cars.
- Are you transporting dangerous goods?
Of course, this is a separate story. We recently began to deal with this, and we transport everything that requires close attention and protection - narcotic substances, pesticides, etc. For this, the compliance of the International Convention on the Transport of Special Dangerous Goods and specially trained people is necessary.
- What do you consider the main problem of the collection market?
The biggest problem is the so-called "gray" and "black" collectors. "Gray" is dumping at the expense of savings on the transport of Coven values. But at least they have a license, and "black" collectors do not have a license, no weapons or special machines. Unfortunately, commercial structures, seeking to save, trust the transportation of our money is not clear to whom. A few years ago, when I headed the security service of the Bank of Russia, a car was robbed, which was transporting the amount comparable to the budget of the Middle Region. Now such banks are less, including, thanks to the activities of the Central Bank of Market Cleaning.
- Are you trying to influence regulation?
Our market regulates the Bank of Russia, but "gray" and "black" play not by the rules. They work without a license outside the supervision and control, therefore are rather in the competence of the internal affairs bodies. Moreover, they are attacked more often than on us - it is difficult to approach us, and they are in the safety of "holes".
We have created an association in the field of cash cash circulationAnd according to her lines, we will insist on the introduction of the standard of transportation developed by us with the assistance of the banking community. The Central Bank accepted it, it works, we try to match him and become more and more modern.
- The entrance threshold to the collector business is high enough. What do you have to spend money?
The entrance to the market is really roads. First of all, these are transport for transportation. In addition to 300 large trucks - "tanks on wheels," there are even armored jeeps that we got from the management of the Bank of Russia's special transportation. But our main workhorse is "Gazelle", although the Park of foreign cars collected in Russia are great. For long distances, we have values \u200b\u200bin special armored cars, and in hard-to-reach places - helicopters that lease. Use and air transportation.
Transport is made under the order, it needs to be issued and servicing. Only on fuel we spend about 850 million rubles per year, therefore we totals for changing the current standards prohibiting the fillings of our gas machines. This would allow us to save.
In addition, it is necessary to train people, issuing licenses for weapons - it also costs money. Great security costs, insurance. Traditionally, most countries have structures that are withstanding the specified quality, and customers get the opportunity to choose among them. To this scheme you need to come and us.
- In the future, do you plan to remain a division of the Bank of Russia?
Now the question of our incorporation is being considered. A relevant draft law has been prepared, while it states that 100% of the shares will belong to the Bank of Russia.
The Bank of Russia from June 1 abolishes the management of special transportation of the head repository (Moscow) of the central storage. Speaking easier, the structural unit is abolished responsible for collector transportation. Its functions and property with a total cost of more than 2 billion rubles are transferred to the Russian Combination of Collection (Rosinkas). More than a thousand management workers lose their jobs: the transition from one organization to another with a salary reduction several times and the social package does not categorically suit them.
As it became known to "solidarity", the Bank of Russia (he is the central bank of the Russian Federation) intends to get rid of one of his structural units. According to the order of January 31 of the current year, from June 1, the financial regulator will abolish the management of special transport of the head repository (Moscow) of the central repository (in the future - management). This editors reported Yuri Afonichn, chairman of the trade union of the Central Stores of the Bank of Russia.
Management is engaged in transportation of banknotes and coins of reserve funds, documents and precious metals Central Bank. In the assets of the Office there are fifty buildings and structures, one and a half hundred vehicle (Specvagons and special vehicles) and the necessary infrastructure - the total value of the property as of January of this year was estimated by more than 2 billion rubles. All this property, together with the functions of the management, is transmitted - as claimed by Afonichn, free of charge - the Russian Combination of Collection (Rosinkas).
For the trade union primary, the main thing is that in the elimination of management, more than a thousand people will lose their work (almost all of them consist in the trade union of government agencies and public service). Of course, they are offered work in
Rosinkas. But, according to Yuri Afonichna, in this case the salary of workers will significantly decrease.
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Association "Rosinkas" - the largest cash carrier in the country and other values. The company has 78 branches whose activities covers the whole territory Russian Federation. Today, Rosinkas is more than 5,200 units of special road transport and 17.9 thousand people having special preparation. According to official reporting, the company's profits for 2013 amounted to about 1.5 billion rubles.
According to information from the official website of Rosinkas.ru
Here it is necessary to notice that Rosinkas and now performs part of the collection of transportation for the Central Bank. But, according to Afonukin, the share of orders from the Bank of Russia does not exceed 12% of the total. The main activity of the company is servicing the commercial organizations of the widest spectrum - from banks to retail chains.
At the same time, the founder of Rosinkas is the Bank of Russia itself, and the activities of the organization lead nine people from the Central Bank itself, including the chairman of its supervisory board and the first deputy chairman of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation Georgy Luntovsky. In other words, it can be concluded that the transition of functions from the management to Rosinkas is not enough for what will affect: after all, the leadership of the latter de facto is carried out by senior officials from the same Central Bank. It can also be concluded that the Bank of Russia can even make a profit from reorganization: after all, Rosinkas net profit for 2013 amounted to approximately 1.5 billion rubles (no more pressing data in reporting on the official website).
However, firstly, the extraction of commercial profit is not the statutory goal of the Bank of Russia. And, secondly, according to the interlocutors of "solidarity" in the trade union of civil servants, the Charter of Rosinkas does not imply the transfer of profits or its part of the founder. In addition, the interlocutors of "solidarity" argue that this charter has not yet been registered by the Ministry of Justice. Yury Afonukin insists on the inconsistency of the Charter of the Association of Rosinkas Civil Code:
In the Charter, Rosinkas there is no authorized capital - once, and such an organizational and legal form, as an association, the Civil Code does not provide for - these are two, "he says. - And in general, all this transaction shall cause enormous damage to the state. Transportation of regional reserve funds is a strategic function. And it is transmitted to the structure that is completely and next to commerce and the first place puts its economic interests. Transferring the functions of such a company, the state actually loses control over the carriage of the values \u200b\u200bof regional reserve funds.
At the same time, in a separate order, it is said that the Central Bank will reimburse Rosinkas related costs for work. According to the latest public information, in 2012, the income of the organization from the transport of reserve funds (paid by the Bank of Russia) amounted to about 5 billion rubles (copies of documents are available at the disposal of the editorial board). Accordingly, transferring an additional front of work, the Central Bank, in theory, should increase the costs of its services. At the same time, according to the results of work for 2015, the management activity was spent all ("total" - compared with the previous number) 2.3 billion rubles. This is said about this internal audit of the Central Bank. But it is worth recognizing that the comparison of the costs of the Central Bank to work two structures is very approximately due to the difference in reporting periods.
Be that as it may, monetary aspects in this business are tightly intertwined with purely human interests. This is again and again reminiscent of Prefect:
We are employees of the Central Bank, we have a social package in the form of preferential access to children's camps, departmental pensions, sanatoriums and other. There is no one to Rosinkas, "he says. - Do you know what's most interesting? In the Rosinkas Charter, it is written that it is the structure of the Central Bank. But his employee is not the employee of the Central Bank. That is, he's no one. There was a meeting with George Ivanovich Luntovsky, I asked him a question: why so? It refers to some special forms. I say: "Why is Rosinkas employee is not an employee of the Central Bank?" No answer.
The trade union organization of the management of special transport of the Bank of Russia's central repository is not entitled to challenge and does not dispute the decision of the Board of Directors of the CB for optimization. - But we are wary of illegal, according to our conviction, the multi-billion transfer of the federal property of Rosinkas, which will earn profit in their own interests. In no case we do not oppose the company "Rosinkas" - we are against the destruction of a logical structure of the transportation of the values \u200b\u200bof the Bank of Russia's reserve funds, and in general, the Russian Federation. Structures similar to the management of special transportation of the Central Storage of the Bank of Russia are in many countries of the world. In the destruction of the Office, a threat to the safety of valuables is created, and the most important thing is the threat of personnel safety.
Comment
Nikolay Vodyanov, Chairman of the Trade Union of State Medics and public service RF:
In fact, the control functions are translated into "outsourcing". I am confused in this regard ... I saw them (Rosinkas. - P.O.) Documents: This organization does not register with the Ministry of Justice. How can we say that this is an independent organization if its charter is not registered by the state?! This is some kind of amateur! Well, there can be no such thing, it is nonsense, I have never seen this in my life. There is a charter, and he is very strange. It says that this is a non-state organization. That is, the state has its own securities, Documents, money trusts for the transportation and preservation of a non-state organization. For me it is strange. But even if we can survive it, then how do you still explain that they are not registered with their charter? The state is that - does not recognize?
Yes, in the end, this is the case of the bank - to determine who is worthy who is not worthwhile to carry its values, but here it is about government papers. As far as I know, there is no evidence that, for example, the FSB considers this organization to be trustworthy or verified. But it seems to me that in this case the FSB must be some kind of coordination.
And if you look from the point of view of the trade union, our ideology says: We cannot support any decision that the interests of our trade union are infringed. Right here we are talking that a thousand people remain without work. And these are people who professionally engaged in current activities - with arms in their hands risked life or provided the work of those who risked. And now they are all offered to go outside. The fact that they are offered as an alternative is unpervently: salary, like a middle ward, which is not responsible for anything. Naturally, I can't support such a proposal. My opinion is that in this case there are already strategic state interests.
Dossier
"... The Office is engaged in transportation and maintenance of banknotes and coins of reserve funds, precious metals with affinent enterprises in the storage room of Russia. Created in the central repository of the Bank of Russia, the system of ensuring the implementation of valuables successfully contributes to reliable protection of values, prevention or minimizing the consequences of criminal encroachments.
The central repository of the Bank of Russia is built, the system of safety measures for the transport of reserve funds, in close cooperation with the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, the Ministry of Transport of Russia, Russian Railways OJSC, JSC "Federal Passenger Company", is being implemented.
Management workers are employees of the Bank of Russia and have a similar social package. In the system of central repository, during its existence, not a single case of the embezzlement of values, the death of workers, breakdowns for the transportation of values \u200b\u200bfor the fault of special traffic controls.
Under these conditions, the decision of the Bank of Russia, adopted in December 2015, the decision to liquidate management, and ultimately the destruction of the well-established and justified from the point of view of ensuring the safety of the reserve funds and the safety of the system of system workers, is an uninterrupted.
In accordance with the order of the Bank of Russia dated January 31, 2013 No. OD-291 since 1.06.2016, the management of special transportation of the head repository of the Central Storage of the Bank of Russia is abolished. For the Russian Association of Collection (Rosinkas), rights and obligations for the organization and transportation of transportation and maintenance of values \u200b\u200busing special transportation are enshrined.
More than 1000 management workers are subject to reducing. Frequently transferred buildings, structures, land, technical means, armored special transport and transportation of economic destination, which are federal property, in the Rosinkas Association.
Proposals for the employment of dismissed management workers will reduce their social status, as they will be accepted for more low salarieswill lose surge supplements for years of service, social benefits that are put on employees of the Bank of Russia, because Employees Rosinkas employees of the Bank of Russia are not.
Rosinkas, according to the Bank of Russia, is also included in the structure of the Bank of Russia, but by the nature of its activities is a commercial organization, with special statutory tasks, has no own real estate and the authorized capital. Legal status does not comply with the Civil Code of the Russian Federation. The Rosinkas Charter is not registered with the Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation. Territorial divisions of the Collection Rosinkas are not legal entities. The data available on Rosinkas characterize insufficient provision by technical means to ensure transportation and the corresponding contingent of the prepared assessment formulation, which threatens the safety of valuables.
When performing these events, Rosinkas becomes a monopolist for the transport of values \u200b\u200bof the Russian Federation. In this regard, all costs associated with transportation ( insurance fees For transportation, operating costs, the content of the Park Special Transport, its update, etc.), go to the Bank of Russia.
According to a given problem, the labor collective and primary trade union organization of the Central Bank of Russia has prepared appeals to the General Prosecutor's Office of the Russian Federation, addressed to the President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin, First Deputy Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation I.I. Shuvalova, in the newspaper "Solidarity".
I consider it possible to support the conversion of the labor collective and the primary trade union organization of the Central Storage of the Bank of Russia.
Transfer of a strategically important transportation function money, values \u200b\u200band precious metals of the commercial structure will affect the negative way on economic security countries. Thereby, the risks of violation of the uninterrupted cash circulation in the territory of the Russian Federation are created, and also put to ensure the safety of values. "
From the service note of Nikolai Vodyanov addressed to the chairman of the FNPR Mikhail Shmakov.
Transformation of the Russian Association of Collection Rosinkas to Joint Stock Company
18. 218310-7 The State Duma as a result of a short discussion approved the bill of first reading "On Amendments to the Federal Law" On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia) "(in terms of eliminating the legal uncertainty of the status of the Russian Association of Collection (ROSINKAS) Central Bank RF (Bank of Russia)).
The document made the government 05.07.17.
Presented Deputy Minister of Finance Alexey Moiseev.
Member of the Committee of Po financial market Alexey Izotov.
Nikolay Kolomaites. Will lead to an increase in wages, as in Russian Railways.
Moiseev. Will not lead.
Andrei Alfev. The most effective form of the GUP.
The draft law provides for the transformation of the Russian Association of Collection (Association "Rosinkas") to the Joint Stock Company "Russian Association of Collection" with a share of the participation of the Bank of Russia in its authorized capital in the amount of 100% and the period for such reorganization is established - no later than 01.01.2018.
The property belonging to the Association of Rosinkas, regardless of the type of real law, is recognized by federal property, the absenteeism of ownership, the use and order of which is carried out by the Bank of Russia, and is transmitted by the Bank of Russia as a contribution to authorized capital JSC "Russian Association of Collection". Property transfer is carried out on the basis of the decision of the Board of Directors of the Bank of Russia.
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Transcript Discussion
18th point. The draft federal law "On Amendments to the Federal Law" On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia) ".
Reports Alexey Vladimirovich Moiseev.
Moiseev A.V. Dear Ivan Ivanovich, dear deputies. You are invited to your attention a bill that is designed to eliminate the legal uncertainty of the status of the Russian Combination of Collection.
Currently, the Association "Rosinkas" is legal entityincluded in the structure of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation and ensuring its activities in the country of cash circulation. At the same time, his organizational and legal form does not apply to any of those that are now providing for civil law and go deep into Soviet organizational and legal forms.
The draft law provides for, respectively, the transformation of the Association Rosinkas to the Joint-Stock Company "Russian Association of Collection" with a share of the Bank of Russia in its authorized capital in the amount of 1001 compartments, and the deadline for such reorganization to 1
January 2018. The conversion of the Rosinkas Association in Joint Stock Company is necessary to ensure proper control within corporate procedures from the Bank of Russia, as well as bringing in line with current legislation.
In addition, the draft law establishes the procedure for the features of the transfer of property in the quality of the contribution of the Bank of Russia to the authorized capital of the specified society.
At the same time, the draft law is invited to include the Association of Rosinkas in the number of its organization included in the Bank of Russia. Please support.
Alexey Nikolaevich Izotov is a member of the Financial Market Committee.
Izotov A. N., Fraction "United Russia".
Dear Ivan Ivanovich, dear colleagues, really the Russian collection of collection was created in the period of existence State Bank Soviet Union, in 1987. For 30 years, an indefinite organizational and legal form has exist, it must be brought into line with Civil Code, in line with our legislation.
Similar changes were made to organizations such as " Savings bank"," Russian Railways "," Russian National Reinsurance Company "," National System payment cards"And in a similar way, it is already planned to reorganize, or rather, to bring the organizational and legal form of Rosinkas in line with the Civil Code of the Russian Federation.
The Committee in its conclusion on the draft law emphasized that the implementation of the draft laws should not create conditions that contribute to the occurrence of the risks of inefficient implementation of the public-legal function "Rosinkas".
From the government, the Bank of Russia, as well as representatives of Rosinkas, we received such assurances that these fundamental conditions will be observed.
Well, also we had a legal and technical comments to the bill. Nevertheless, the Committee believes that these comments can be taken into account when preparing the draft law to second reading and the Financial Market Committee recommends that the State Duma take it in the first reading.
Thank you.
Presidency. Thank you. Colleagues, will questions? There is. Turn on the recording mode to questions. Show list. Kolomomesey Nikolay Vasilyevich. Kolomayev N. V. Thank you.
Dear Alexey Vladimirovich, please tell me, here it is written in the conclusion, financial and economic conclusion that costs will not need. Well, you only change the forms with the title. This is the costs.
Due to whom will it be? And I understand that it is like in railway will lead to a sharp increase in salary of management personnel and, of course, this is also costs. Due to what will they be? Due to the increase in the cost of collection or due to what? Thank you.
Moiseev A. V. Nikolai Vasilyevich, start from the end.
First, banks are not at all obliged to use the collection "Rosinkas", you can use any other collection if they do not like the collection of Rosinkas. This is the first.
Second. Blanks, I think we agreed with Central Bankthat they are forms, pens, badges and pictures will use as far as possible and will be printed new only when old.
And, thirdly, as for wages, salaries within the framework of the central bank's estimates are approved at the Central Financial Council, which includes some representatives, including your faction. So, please, you can specifically entrust them to follow this. And we, too, for our part, promise to ensure that there was no sharp increase in salaries.
Presidency. Thank you.
Andrei Gennadevich.
Alfev A. G., Fraction "United Russia".
Thank you.
Alexey Vladimirovich! Well, first, I would like to ask why we go for so long to reorganize this organization? The most interesting thing is that there is still an interview with the 2004 of the then leadership, then they no longer supported the ideas of reorganization, because the most optimal form is still GU P. This is the first.
Second. According to the Federal Law, since we make it a joint stock company, after all, according to the Federal Law, the main goal and the task of the joint stock company is to extract profits. As far as after reorganization will entail a contradiction with federal lawbecause I do not think they will work for great profits, but nevertheless? And will it lead to the first step after the reorganization of the joint stock company to the fact that then decisions will be made to privatize this enterprise?
Moiseev A. V. Well, again, start from the end. In the bill, which is proposed to you expressly, it is 100 percent to secure the share of Rosinkas associations 100 percent of the Bank of Russia and, accordingly, any attempt to privatize ... First, they will not be, but if they are, you will need it Coordinate because it will be directly written in the law. This is the first. That is, 100 percent ownership of the Bank of Russia is directly fixed in law. This is the first.
Second. With regard to the fact that a joint stock company has some profit, yes, so exactly, it is. However, we have many joint-stock companies, including a small business support corporation, which has been discussed here.
Exactly the same question was asked Braverman on Wednesday, and he answered, I can offer the same answer and suggest you. Yes, of course, this is a goal - an extraction of profits, and this is an adjustable society, and its margin will, of course, are regulated, including within the framework of the National financial Councilwhich includes, including representatives of the State Duma.
And the last reason for this form. I believe that the joint stock company is much more successful. I have to say that we have seen this on the example, for example, the Goznak, which also became a year ago, and when we can significantly better manage all corporate processes through corporate procedures, which are provided for by our legislation when this joint stock company. When it is not clear that, sorry, it is incomprehensible how to manage it. In fact, only the telephone law is valid, and these legal grounds for the superior organization rules, no.
In this situation, through the mechanism of corporate procedures, which are recorded in the GC, and the Law on Joint-Stock Companies, to manage much easier and reporting is much transparent. Therefore, I believe that the form of a joint stock company, it is much more suitable than any other.
Presidency. Thank you, Alexey Vladimirovich. Colleagues, will those who wish to speak? I do not see. No wishing.
I put the bill on the vote. Turn on the voting mode. Show the results.
Voting results (11 hours. 34 min. 50 sec.)
Voted for 327 people 72.7%
Voted against 29 people 6.4%
Abstained 0 people 0.0%
356 people voted.
94 people did not vote 20.9%
Result: Adopted bill in the first reading is accepted.